AMERICAN THOUGHT LEADERS
The Epoch Times | Doug Wead | Dec 5, 2019
From the time that Ivanka Trump was a little girl, her father was ripping out pages of The New York Times lamenting what America’s elites—both Republican and Democrat—were doing to America, Wead said.
All this time, “he’s hoping that somebody’s going to come along and run for president and clean this up and nobody ever does,” Wead said.
Trump watched as Republican and Democratic presidents welcomed communist China into the World Trade Organization and gave China most favored nation status. They paved the way for the rise of communist China and enabled “the largest transfer of wealth in human history, outside of the Middle East, of America’s wealth to China,” Wead said.
“Imagine how much money it’s taken to pull China out of poverty. And the American middle-class has done that,” he said.
“The president knows that the decisions he has to make vis-a-vis China are the toughest decisions he will make,” Wead said. And he understands that the American people won’t fully appreciate his decisions, such as placing hefty tariffs on Chinese products, Wead said.
Untold Stories
Trump is the sixth U.S. president Wead has interviewed; he’s also conversed with six first ladies and 30 siblings and children of different presidents.
In his interviews with the presidents, he says the only common denominator was that they were all great listeners.
“When I found that with Trump, I was surprised because on TV, you only see him talking, you don’t see him listening,” Wead said. “My whole perspective on the president changed immediately when I met him.”
During one of Ivanka Trump’s interviews with Wead, she told him, “he is really very compassionate.”
Wead details in his book: “All her life, even in her teens, Ivanka would be called into his office, where he would tear off a piece of the morning newspaper and say, ‘Ivanka, find this person.’ It might be a person whose apartment had burned, destroying everything he had owned. Once, it was a young woman whose father had been murdered in the Bronx, and prosecutors would not make the arrest.”
Ivanka eventually found the woman, who had been left impoverished, and her father offered to help her and give her a job, Wead wrote.
One of America’s most shameful secrets was the many U.S. hostages held abroad, Wead told The Epoch Times.
Previous administrations had failed to secure their release.
“I’ve spoken with the families of these hostages. Democrat, Republican—they don’t care. They had loved ones that they cared about who were beheaded and who were tortured and raped,” Wead said.
“They were told by the American government, keep quiet,” Wead said. He says the rationale was that if they increased the publicity surrounding a hostage, it would increase the value of the hostage, and make it harder to free that person. And more Americans abroad would likely be imprisoned to blackmail the United States.
“There was this period of darkness, a shameful period where nothing could be said about the hostages,” Wead said.
“If it’s your son or daughter, your only hope is the federal government. And they won’t keep you informed? They won’t tell you what’s going on? They won’t let you use your money or your abilities to try to bring them home?”
Trump “was outraged by that,” Wead said. Since taking office, he has successfully freed 22 hostages.
Trump refused to offer money in exchange.
“He did the reverse: We’re taking their money, and we’re going to squeeze them until they let them go” was his rationale, Wead said.
In his book, he highlights the case of Pastor Andrew Brunson, who had been imprisoned in Turkey for alleged links to the Gülen movement, a designated terrorist organization in Turkey. The government in Ankara had produced no evidence, so Brunson couldn’t refute any of the charges against him.
The Trump administration made several agreements with Turkey to secure Brunson’s release, but the Turks backed out of them, Brunson told Wead later in an interview.
Trump pressured Turkey by putting sanctions on two of its officials, doubling tariffs on steel and aluminum from Turkey, and engaging Congress and the European Parliament to exert pressure as well. The Turkish lira tumbled, and on Oct. 12, 2018, Trump welcomed Brunson and his family to the White House.
Trump “brought the Turkish economy to the brink over one man, and he got him home,” Wead said.
Death Threats
Before the book was published, Wead said he began receiving death threats against him and his family from different IP addresses in an attempt to stop him from releasing his work.
“They named my family members and details about their life that would only come from a great deal of research,” Wead said.
“These are unusual times,” he added.
Wead believes the anti-Trump resistance wanted to impeach Trump as soon as he won the election.
“So it had nothing to do with Russian collusion, because that came later; it had nothing to do with the phone call to Ukraine because that came later,” Wead said.
“The national media and the establishment,” are still reeling from the humiliation that U.S. voters didn’t vote how they were told to, Wead said.
As Wead highlighted in his book, Trump’s victory defied all expectation: “He had been opposed by Hollywood, academia, Wall Street, and the national media. Every living president, Republican and Democratic, had voted against him. Two-hundred-and-forty newspapers had endorsed his opponent, Hillary Clinton. Nineteen had supported him. Billionaires had voted against him 20 to one.”
In addition, right after the election, economist Paul Krugman wrote, “We are very probably looking at a global recession, with no end in sight.”
But contrary to the predictions of economic fallout, the economy boomed, and now boasts more than 7 million job openings.
“That’s the entire population of the state of Indiana in unfilled jobs,” Wead said.
Wead said Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner—who plays a much larger role in the Trump administration than people think—once remarked to Trump that it was thanks to the media’s total fixation with the Russia collusion narrative that the Trump administration was able to deregulate.
“The cutting of regulations could have been big stories. Instead, they were blind to what we were doing, and we were able to jump-start the economy,” Kushner told Wead.
In writing his book, “What I wanted to do was get accurate stories, real stories down on paper—truth on paper,” Wead said.
“I told Ivanka, you know, in 100 years from now, there are still going to be books written and dramas performed about the Trump family. But whether they’re viewed hatefully as the Borgias or as the Medicis or as grandly as the Kennedys or the Rockefellers or some great family, all of that depends on what is written and said about them now,” he said.
“Not the hearsay, but the primary sources.” American Thought Leaders is an Epoch Times show available on Facebook and YouTube.
That was his instinct:
You’ve got a problem with somebody? You call him. And that’s what he did with Kim Jong Un.
Doug Wead, presidential historian
I told Ivanka, you know, in 100 years from now, there are still going to be books written and dramas performed about the
Trump family.
Doug Wead, presidential historian


President Donald Trump shakes hands with North Korea’s leader Kim Jong Un before a meeting at the Sofitel Legend Metropole hotel in Hanoi, Vietnam, on Feb. 27, 2019.
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